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Ajax 013 - <Death to Heroes>[The Damned] [The Lost][The Forgotten] ObscurumVictoria :
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This article has been marked as non-canon friendly/ unrealistic for these three reasons
  • He was born in 2456, but when he joined the academy 78 years later, he was only 20 years old.
  • When he first met Miranda Keyes, she was nine. When he slept with her and then married her, she was 15. A 84 year old man, having sex then marrying a 15 year old girl. That's..... Pretty illegal.
  • And Miranda Keyes died during the battle of the Ark. Shot in back, dead as a dodo.



Halo fanon means non-canon information ok. (Dragonboy546)


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You should familiarise yourself with the rules



I did read the rules (Dragonboy546 (talk) 19:39, November 1, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)


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"From this moment onward, you are Egon Talorus. And to humanity, you are everything.":

TALK - 19:53, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
Then based on the state of your page, we can surmise that you are either lying about having read the rules, did not understand the rules but did not ask for clarification, or simply do not care enough about the rules to bother to follow them. Your page does not comply with site standards, and needs to be brought up to those standards within two weeks, otherwise the page will be namespaced. If you need help, feel free to ask for it, but this page needs to be fixed either way.



I changed his birthdate what more do I need to do and what the heck is Namepace? (Dragonboy546 (talk) 20:39, November 1, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)


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Anonymous ONI agent - Gwneud o dân, a gyda chalonnau wneud o iâ.
"From this moment onward, you are Egon Talorus. And to humanity, you are everything.":

TALK - 21:19, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
It is still incorrect and would still make him far older than twenty if he graduated at that time.




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Okay, I'll run through the enormous logical fallacies you've written into this article.

The article states he was born in 2469. It then goes on to state that in 2534 he was twenty years old. Despite this, he was born 65 years previous. There's a rather large flaw right then.

The article then states he met Miranda in 2534, at the academy. She would of been 9 years old at the time, far too young to join the military. She doesn't join the academy until 2541.

The article then states, they had a sexual relationship and got married in 2540. At this time, he would be 71, she would be aged 15. Do you not see something incredibly wrong with this?

To add some finality to the matter, she dies in 52, which would make it tricky to have kids.

There's also other little tricky things, like the fact the UNSC operates warships, they wouldn't raise families on them, the UNSC Navy doesn't use the rank of colonel, but uses admiral.

Now, here's my suggested fix. If you want him to be twenty years old in 2534, changed his birth date to 2514. I'd drop the whole entire relationship with Miranda Keyes. Its super creepy, way out of character, and unnecessarily shoehorning in a canon character is a pretty Stuish thing to do (Which is a cardinal sin of fanon writing.).



Changed it to a better date of birth (Dragonboy546 (talk) 21:24, November 1, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)

Guys what else do I need to fix cause I fixed the article to standard now can I get rid of that not canon friendly template please? (Dragonboy546 (talk) 13:21, November 2, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)


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I am genuinely worried about the fact you've intentionally, or unintentionally written this character as a child molester.



For Pete sake guys

I am not good at math Ajax 013 and why is that thing back I fixed everything and it was on accident ok. (Dragonboy546 (talk) 00:36, November 4, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)


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Miranda Keyes was born in 2525. Your character apparently marries her in 2540.

This means that your character is 26 years old and marrying and having sex with a 15-year old, making them a pedophile. And that is most certainly not okay in any way on this Wiki. It doesn't take much of any skill in math to figure this out.

The NCF tag will stay there until such time as an admin removes it, once the article meets the expected quality levels.



Guys

I looked at the halo wikia and Miranda was 16 years old when she went into the Academy and I am changing it so you guys can take that Template off so I can not have to change anything else on it (Dragonboy546 (talk) 01:12, November 4, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)


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Her being 16 when entering the Naval academy has nothing to do with it being okay or not to have sex with her while she is 15.

Again, you don't get to remove the NCF tag on your own article. It will be removed upon further review by an admin should they deem the changes appropriate.



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This page is still riddled with errors, which I'll surmise here, with possible fixes. The fact I had to threaten to delete the page, just to stop you writing this character as a paedophile, is ridiculous.
  • Miranda Keyes was born in 2525. This is very important for future comments
  • In 2534, she was nine years old. She joined the academy in 2541. You also state Tyson's age as 20 in 2534, but later state is as 16. I would make up your mind, and update the rest of the article to match accordingly.
  • In 2549 she would be 24.
  • When in the world would Miranda have an opportunity to have a kid? Currently, it says Nicole Keyes would of been born in 2544, before they met. Given that Miranda is a career military woman, and spent almost all of her time on active service between 2545 up to her death, I don't know when or how she would of taken several years out to squeeze out a kid (Who despite being Tyson's doesnt have his name). The entire thing with Miranda is just shoehorning in Tyson into the main story of Halo, but ultimately fails to be believable, as it all seems very out of character for Miranda. I'd advise you drop her having a kid with him. Its just horrendously unbelievable, and degrades the quality of this work.
  • There is no such rank as Fleet Captain, I think you mean Fleet Admiral.

The NCF template can only be removed by an admin, once all the issues have been dealt with. Until then, they will remain. If you fail to fix the issues within a week, or the page will be moved to namespace. Namespace is a place where articles are sent, where they can't be found through normal searches of the wiki, basically making it invisible to any readers.

If you try to write something, research it first, don't wing it. If you aren't sure about dates, and since you had frequently shown little to no capability to perform third-grade level maths, use a calculator. Don't wing it, its how you're making so many mistakes.



there how is that

There you picky people how is that I changed it ok (Dragonboy546 (talk) 02:40, November 4, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546).


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Not wanting to have a character on the site that fiddles kids is considered 'picky', hmm? You seem to have fixed most of the issues, so I will remove the templates.



What are the other Issues that I need to fix?

More issues what are they and also how do I do a series template on here? (Dragonboy546 (talk) 03:06, November 4, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546)

Acknowledging your statements regarding your aptitude at math:
  • John Tyson joins and completes his several-year education at the UNSC academy is less than a year. Simply changing the date that he is called to action (see here) to 2535 or later will fix this easily.
  • John's daughter is 19 in 2563, meaning she was born in 2544. The article indicates he went on to meet Miranda Keyes in 2549 - five years after the birth of his daughter - at which time the two of them decided not to have a relationship. You need to explain what happened to the mother of his child, as presumably John would not even consider a relationship with Miranda Keyes if his daughter's mother was still involved with him.
In addition:
  • Character articles usually do not include the rank of the individual in the title, and for good reason. At current, the article is named "Captain John Tyson", but his eventual rank is listed as "Fleet Admiral".
  • Captains do not command fleets, especially not the UNSC Home Fleet.
  • The entirety of John Tyson's participation in the Human-Covenant War (see here) is extremely difficult to follow. I strongly recommend using a word processor for grammar issues.
  • Finally, how does someone have two homeworlds? A person can't exactly be born on two planets.

That's all for now. Auguststorm1945 (Talk) 03:31, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

He decided to call Harvest his home as well as Earth even at the objection of his father (Dragonboy546 (talk) 03:58, November 4, 2014 (UTC)Dragonboy546).


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TALK CONTRIBUTIONS — 23:57, November 3, 2014 (EST)
I'm sure by now you're tired of being corrected by yet another user, so I'll try to be brief. First of all, the "homeworld" section is meant to convey objective information, not the character's opinion of what he considers his homeworld. So whichever one he was biologically born on would be his homeworld.

If you are not good at math, I would advise you use the calculator on your computer to figure out ages before you submit them on the article. This will help prevent more criticisms about character ages in the future.

Lastly, I can vouch for these users by saying that they're here to help you improve your article, not to give you a hard time. Seeing as they are showing you a great deal of patience in resolving the issues on this article, I would ask that you at least return the favour by not calling people "picky". Good luck!

Why we are picky...
TL;DR We don't mean to stifle creativity, but Halo Fanon operates under the idea that adherence to canon leads to better storytelling from writers on the Halo universe. Our interpretation of 'fanon' is that it is 'fan canon': a logical extension of established canon through filling in the gaps and adding to the official story with additional realistic and believable tale.
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