I know that I'm going to get the questions, and I will answer them now:
No, Carter is dead. You cannot bring him back.
No, Emile is dead too.
Kat too. But if you survive a massive hole in your head, I may rethink that. And I don't just mean surgery. I mean a high-caliber projectile punching through your gray matter. Then you can come ask me if you can keep her.
No, Six is dead. Being torn to ribbons does that.
The only two Spartans from Noble that I will accept could have survived are Jun and Jorge, and to my knowledge we already have people working on them. Auntie Dot is still open, however.
I disagree with Carter's death - plain and simple. See link.
The way I see it, if I were to eject Carter a second and a half before impact (call it a Zero-Zero Ejector Seat), and given the angle the Pelican is at in the cutscene, I think its possible to play Carter's survival in that way. To explain the lack of Carter's reply, he was knocked unconscious from smacking into the side of the Scarab, and his 'chute opened over the cliff.
That can probably be elaborated by people who've actually played Reach, but its highly possible in my opinion, given Carter's intellect and coolness under pressure.
Maslab, don't rule it out - canon characters have survived bigger things, like Johns
Carter was already dead and he knew it. Special Forces, particularly Spartans, are trained for one purpose outside the completion of their mission: Survival. That means the mission comes first, then their survival. All other factors are secondary. Carter sacrificed himself to save Emile and Six for the simple reason that he knew he was dead anyway. Else he would have bailed for sure. There's a reason Carter never talked about bailing, and a reason why Emile and Six never objected.
Besides, it's easy to see that nothing comes out of the Pelican but a whole lot of shrapnel. You would think that Emile and Six would have noticed Carter ejecting.
Yes, it's sad. Yes, it's unfortunate. But you can't save everyone.
Even if Carter did pull off a last-second ejection, his body was clearly falling apart before Six and Emile bailed and he can't have gotten any better in the time between then and the Scarab encounter. So I doubt he would survive being in such close proximity to an explosion and all the shrapnel that comes with it. The fact that the Covenant probably glassed that area a few hours later anyway doesn't really help either.
I suppose it's plausible if you stretch your willing suspension of disbelief a ways, but even then his survival is something I'd expect from a Gundam anime, not Halo. In this case, Maslab's got every right to declare him dead for the purposes of AAO.
You know, I'd rule out Jorge's survival too. If there had been a way off the ship, he would have found out. He and Six both knew about the "one-way trip". And like Carter, Jorge's motivation wasn't to survive.
What with the circumstances of Jorge's death, I'd be more willing to say he lived. Still doubtful, though.
I honestly just said this because I'm getting tired of people constantly trying to come up with ways that a dead character could have survived. It's annoying. "Sergeant Johnson really did survive! The Sentinels did a thingy with him!"
That's why I did this. You have to let go every now and then.
I am the one in charge of Jorge in AAO nad a story is in development so no one starts bitching about me not fully explaining how he lived -.- Echo 1125 01:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
As some may be aware 343 Industries has created The Forerunner Saga in an attempt to fill the chasm that is Forerunner Era and as a side effect left AAO with a majority of its material no longer Canon Friendly. As a result Against All Odds has been switched to the Contradictory template in order to preserve our material. This means that we are in a position to ignore the current Cryptum canon altogether and proceed with the materials we have at present.
There are many that accept the Canon that is Cryptum, I myself find it to be enjoyable and paints a greater –however darker view of the Forerunners. However the new material presented has left Sona’s Forerunner Chronicles in a Non-Canon-Friendly state due to a number of aspects that are present in the new novel. These include simple things such as the variations between the Forerunner genetic castes and such.
Another aspect that is damaging to AAO is the Precursors; In Cryptum Canon all but one is killed off and almost all artifacts that originated from them are destroyed –Due to the Halo Effect breaking down their Structure- As a result Maslab’s Flight of the Phoenix is left In a NCF position, due to some materials that are present.
In our current position AAO is left with no choice but to tear up the groundwork that has already been lain and destroy literally hundreds of articles in order to adjust to new canon and given the seer level of work that is required and the lack of Moderators this cannot be done.
However we can attempt to remain along similar lines to Cryptum Canon and adopt various aspects that have emerged to provide ourselves with possibly hundreds of new plot devices and events to better the AAO Universe as a whole.
Possible items of salvage
Capital - The centre of the Forerunner Ecumene, a repository of twenty thousand years of Forerunner knowledge and wisdom.
Halo_Array - In Cryptum there is a stated 12 Halo structures originally manufactured with five destroyed leaving the seven primary arrays, however due to the nature of the Ark facility it is presumed these facilites were rebuilt and left inactive
Deep_Reverence - A Promethean vessel with a design similar to that of High Charity that perhaps inspired the latter Covenant station.
Cryptum - A Forerunner device used to store Forerunner for a near infinite period of Time.
Prisoner_of_Charum_Hakkor - As previously stated it is inadvisable to have the Precursor/Forerunner war take place as it wipes out all but one Precursor, however this character can still be used In a similar mean E.G One of the few Precursors Left in the Milky Way.
Organon - An artifact that is said to reactivate all Precursor technology.
I'm all for it. I think it's best we stay away from certain 343i material until they get their feet firmly on the ground; right now they're still looking for the right approach. If you ask me, 343i feels like a fanon expanded universe; their stuff is questionable, and isn't always in sync with previous canon. And it's most certainly going to be uncooperative towards something like AAO.
I tried to get along with Glasslands. I really did. I had been willing to overlook the minor discrepancies, fix the major ones, and even prepare for a rewrite of one of my story series to get rid off as many of the issues as I can. But this is going to fuck up everything Maslab is planning, not to mention where I myself wanted to take AAO. Cryptum is still in good standing for us, but I suggest that everyone just ignore Glasslands. This is not going to work if we're constantly going to be put through this. I'm not breaking my back to change our plot just so we have to change it again when yet another story comes out.
Can I become part of the team? And why is everybody MY LITTLE PONY THEMED?--Tayd0gta (talk) 22:40, March 12, 2014 (UTC) Comment back on my talk page.
Can I join AAO? I'm having a situation with submitting requests :/ --Honorzealot (talk) 18:27, June 3, 2014 (UTC)Honorzealot