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Any discussions not relating to a specific nomination must be placed HERE or it will be removed without notice. Please note that only the Panel Moderator may update the status of a nominated article once voting has begun.

Format

Nominations MUST follow every requirement set forth in this section HERE, refusal to do so will result in your nomination being removed from consideration. To submit an article for candidacy in the Good Articles project, please use the format seen below:

===[[ARTICLE NAME]]===
*'''Writer —''' {{Name|USERNAME}}
*'''Nominator —''' {{Name|USERNAME}}
*'''Date of Creation —''' Month Day, Year
*'''Date of Nomination —''' Month Day, Year
*'''Description —''' Describe the Good Article candidate in an effective way with as few words as possible.
*'''Why —''' In your opinion, why should this article be granted the honor of Good Article status?
*'''Status —''' The present status of the article as a Good Article candidate (FOR JUDICIARY PURPOSES ONLY!)

====Voting====

====Comments====
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Nominations

Joseph-122

• Writer — Falkeno
• Nominator — Falkeno
• Date of Creation — June 22, 2019
• Date of Nomination — June 17, 2020
• Description — An expansion of Joseph-122, a spartan who has mostly gone untouched in the community, has a habit of hurting his legs.
• Why — It's probably my best article, but I don't know if it's actually good unless I throw it in at the deep end and see if it floats.
• Status — Nomination Failed

Voting

1. Support — You need to move the feedback template to above the lore expansion template. Examining Joseph-122 under a microscope, I noted some minor concerns but do not really take away from the quality of the article. The quotation at the top uses blockquotes rather than the quote template {{Quote|quote|source}} favored by most of the site. The intro paragraphs feature some run-on sentences that could be cut down. Your info box mentions Special Warfare Group 3 but I should point out a distinction that they're not under the UNSC Navy but under Unified Special Warfare Command, under UNICOM. Other GA members will probably not like that the Halopedia link color isn't uniform with internal site links but I don't think it's a big issue. I liked the developments that Joseph goes through with Daisy and Ralph, a nice change from other S-II archetypes that tend to forget or accept their role as Spartans. Yeah, the runaways were kind of the other end of the spectrum but I enjoy Joseph's role in the middle ground and as a sad manipulator of sorts. The good build-up for character development later which I assume reflects in your story tied to Joseph as well. Some biography sections seem rather short compared to others, and while I understand the reasoning behind some like small battle sections, I might recommend fleshing them out more or combining some to prevent smaller sections from sticking out. I feel that one of the biggest problems for Joseph-122 is a lack of images spread through the article. The images that are present are certainly full of detail but it would be a good idea to add more in my opinion. Overall I think Joseph is moving much in the right direction, it has my support. Distant Tide: Hunter - Killer
2. Support — Requirements appear to check out. One thing I'd recommend changing is the opening quote, as it seems a bit silly to have Halsey peg him for a specific role at the age of six based on one trait, not accounting for his personality or having any proof of his real aptitudes. If you or anyone else is doing a read-through for revision, I'd look particularly at comma placement, as a few seem misplaced or result in run-on sentences like the second sentence in the intro. Might want to use a Quote template under Escape. I'm glad the Escape section is fleshed out so much (since it's the one canon thing we know about the character, making the most use of it justifies the article as an Expansion), especially with the reactive events in its aftermath. I think, however, that same section goes a bit too far into play-by-play detail for an article. You might try to shorten it up a bit with more general recountings of events in the spots less critical to the events. Joseph's reaction to Daisy's death was of particular interest, though it again goes into a level of detail you might want to reserve for a prose story (which it would definitely be suitable for as a subject). I think the length of those two sections are the only issues I really take with the article, but they do feel significant. The rest is done in more easily-digestible lengths, but those two are so important to the character I really want to see those cut down a bit (maybe not to as general as the rest of the article, since they're so significant) to make a consistent level of detail before approving this for GA. Refine those two a bit, and I'd happily Support it. Changes made have been satisfactory for my reading. Takes the few things we know about him in canon and expands them into a story that tells us more interpersonal conflict went on between the S-IIs than Nylund let on or John might've known, and I'm all for that. That Damn Sniper 03:31, July 26, 2020 (UTC)
3. Oppose — This one is a close call for me. The article falls into the all-too common Spartan trap of feeling more like a list of military engagements than a character story. The effort to detail Joseph's relationships with his fellow Spartans alleviates this a bit -- a good amount of effort is put into showing how his relationships with his teammates evolves over time. Unfortunately I noticed a few grammatical tics throughout the article, specifically multiple instances of apostrophes used to designate plurals ("Spartan's" rather than "Spartans"). I'd also recommend a full proofread to free up some awkward phrasing. Passive voice is hard to avoid in article format but a few sentences are due tightening up. Formatting-wise the article looks fine, though I'll repeat my now-tired pet peeve that the images are a bit too small. If the aforementioned plural issue gets changed I'll change my vote to Support. Actene: Heaven and Earth
4. Oppose — This is also a close one for me. I recommend using the Template:File to help with sizing your pictures and alignment. I like how you go into depth about the escape and the aftermath of each character. Where you mention Carris, Ralph and so forth, brings a different angle to a SPARTAN-II story I haven't seen before. Going into the content, I agree with Actene on the character having a list of military engagements. I also noticed how the article speed through sections, which can make them a drag to read. All in all, you have a great start. I hold more concerns around the grammar and military engagements; which I feel is holding the article back. I will be more than willing to work with you on identifying these concerns on Discord or Joseph's Talk Page. Work on the two things I mentioned and you should get the GA next time. ThePeteFiles (talk) 15:44, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
5. Oppose — Like several of the others, this was tough choice, but I ultimately think that this doesn't quite meet the standards for GA, though it's very close and could easily be brought up to GA quality with some fairly easy changes. The biggest issues that stood out to me as holding the article back would be the short personality section (especially compared to the physical attributes section; the personality description should always be longer than any physical description of the character) and especially the fact that all of the relationship sections have large amounts of identical text in every single one of them. In the latter case I can respect that these are probably because these are a work in progress, but I'd be more comfortable having sections be left blank or incomplete rather than seeing repetition of the same text, especially if it's word-for-word like it is here. If those were to be fixed, however, I'd have no issue with this page receiving GA status. »Anonymous ONI agent« ^{[COMMS] [SERVICE RECORD]}

Allison Spurgeon

• Writer — LoyalHaloFan
• Nominator — LoyalHaloFan
• Date of Creation — October 25, 2018
• Date of Nomination — July 17, 2020
• Description — A controversial Naval officer who led one of the rare large-scale military offensives against the Covenant.
• Why — I was originally going to wait until I finished writing her before nominating her, but now that I've fallen behind on her I've decided to get it over with now and see what people still think of her a year later.
• Status — GA Status granted.

Voting

1. Support — For a time, I remembered there was a real incentive by users on Halo Fanon through 2018/2019 to create high-ranking naval officers with legendary tales of adventure. Of those that survived into 2020 due to any number of reasons, Spurgeon is certainly the most I recall though I think it may have to do with LHF's brief discussions with me regarding Spurgeon and the Interstellar Nuclear Kill Vehicle concept. Looking back at the article now, I can only remain impressed with the polish in regards to the areas that are completed. I admit I would have liked to see more post-War content and more completed section given all the evidence that much more was planned out but nothing goes finished on this site anyway so it's not like I can seriously detract from it when what's already there is more than a solid case for GA. I could comment on the link coloring inconsistency but that's just semantics of conformity to be honest. I like the article, good work - has my support. Distant Tide: Hunter - Killer
2. Support — Up to length, image, and redlink requirements. One section I'd look at is the mention of the Carver findings; 'paired with' is a bit vague on how Allison's seeing things, or what meaning her conclusions have. Maybe make it so she writes a paper for an assignment on how TREBUCHET's details lend credence to the Carver Findings? I'd remove the simile "as if a train had hit her", since it sticks out in an article. Also, you might consider listing her role on-ship in her list of postings, as Weapons Systems Engineer on the Kepler and Communications Liaison on the Hopeful, since it'd kind of plot her rise in station through the course of her career as it tracks what ship she was on. Overall, though, my complaints are pretty minor. There's a well-expanded bio tied into effects of canon events, a sizeable chunk of content in other sections (including separating out Personal Life from a bio focused on her military career, a neat adaption of format you'd see on real-world military officers' Wikipedia entries), and a healthy but well-balanced amount of images, tables, and more. I'm for it. That Damn Sniper 04:35, July 27, 2020 (UTC)
3. Support — As I read Spurgeon, I couldn't help but realize how easy and understanding the interstellar battles were written. What you have is great, I do hope you expand more on the character when you can. There are a few touch ups in terms of grammar. It has my support. ThePeteFiles (talk) 19:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
4. Support — I'll get one pet peeve out of the way first: I'm not a fan of articles getting nominated for GA when they have a list of unfilled sections as long as my arm. It leaves the article with an unfinished quality even more glaring than if the unfilled sections weren't there at all. With that said, an absolutely superb article from LHF. The article structure and layout is phenomenal and one I plan to refer to for future articles of my own. I particularly like the concept of the "Controversies" section -- which further highlights my frustration that such a promising section is left unfilled. A hearty vote for support with the caveat that I hope to see more work on this article soon. Actene: Heaven and Earth

Bodark-B076

• Writer — EvenManatee887
• Nominator — Ahalosniper
• Date of Creation — October 19th, 2018
• Date of Nomination — January 9th, 2021
• Description — A Beta S-III who makes the cut for Cat-II and whose trauma leads to aggressive outbursts.
• Why — Last year's AAs brought to light many articles people had been making steady progress on for a long time, Bodark among them. Even's brought forth a character with a clearly-defined personality which can easily come into play when determining the course of plots, and I want to see it get the trial-by-fire of GA to push it up to the site's top shelf.
• Status — GA Status Granted.

Voting

1. Support — Meets length, template, convention, and categorization requirements. In particular, the images are great. While images aren't the core of what GA reviews, I do think it's nice to have collaboration with other site users in getting such great visualization for fan characters. I would say, however, there are some points in the article the description of individual actions becomes too granular. Fights are fine when you want to describe what particular move or strategy led to the outcome, but sentences like "Exiting the Pelican, Bodark was met with the sight of a destroyed colony" and some of the first paragraph under PERUN Team read more like a story; if you can distill it down to something like "Arriving on the destroyed colony of X, she was greeted enthusiastically by..." Additionally, and this might be an intentional choice by Even, I still might suggest adding a Personality section to give a snapshot of the character and their essential conflicts. It can give a reader an immediate idea of who the character is when the Bio gets to be intimidatingly long, and can help collaborators as a resource for how they should be portrayed. That Damn Sniper 00:45, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
2. Oppose — I agree with what most of ASniper talks about in his comments. I also know I've worked extensively with Even on getting Bodark into shape. While the article does meet many of the requirements, I find myself marking this oppose based on the amount content. I understand it's undergoing a rewrite and there are a few areas I'd like to point out. The timeline of events jumps around a lot in the early life and training, in my opinion. I'd recommend on sitting down to create a timeline of events and document them throughout the character's biography. I understand Beta Company timeline is a mess itself and I'd be willing to work with the writer on securing those areas. One thing that took my eye throughout training was Mendez being listed as a MCPO when he's still a SCPO during GoO. I agree with Sniper on adding a Personality section. There's a lot of good work done here but I also feel there is still quite more to be done. With the addition of an in-depth personality section, fixes with minor details, and a solid timeline, I see this page passing with flying colors if/when it's nominated again. ThePeteFiles (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
3. Oppose — I agree with TPF's analysis. To add a suggestion to his comments, the biography section falls into the all-too-common trap of providing a step-by-step, play-by-play description of events. The urge to provide as much detail as possible is completely understandable, but it risks making reading the character history feel like a chore. I recommend the same changes as TPF, with an emphasis on cutting down extraneous details in the biography and consolidating paragraphs into longer, weightier components. Actene: Heaven and Earth
4. Support — While I contend my fellow judges' points about Bodark being a rather overburdened article in terms of detail content, a lack of written stories where these details would be prevalent instead are not available at this moment for Bodark. Asking someone who put a lot of thought and passion into building a play-by-play of major events in a character's life without another venue to migrate those details to, I feel that it would be a painful and difficult process for Even to find what to sacrifice and what to keep, as well as potentially losing parts of his character he will forget with time. While I think this current predicament will perform against the article's success in keeping readership, keeping it benefits Even in the long run and he should instead maintain his current content and focus more on moving forward, rather take the recommendations and apply them to future biographic details to come. Bodark is certainly incomplete and leaves something to be desired, but what is already here was more than worth a competitive role in the Annual Awards and a recognition with the Fanon of the Month. While Good Articles is the ultimate measure of quality on the site, I think what meets a quality standard for Bodark is already present, if just a bit rough. All I can ask of Even now is to work on that polish because his work still says more than it needs to to tell a tale. - Distant Tide: Hunter - Killer
5. Support — My thoughts closely mirror those of Tide. I feel like the article is in a good enough state at present to meet the requirements. There isn't really an issue with elaborate detail until it reaches the point of being tedious to read, and while this article certainly seems to dance around that line, I think it rarely if ever actually crosses over it. And with the amount of effort that has been put into the article already, Even will undoubtedly continue to hone the quality of writing on this page and resolve these issues in due time anyways. »Anonymous ONI agent« ^{[COMMS] [SERVICE RECORD]}

Daniel Contreras

• Writer — Delta Pistol
• Nominator — Ahalosniper
• Date of Creation — February 12th, 2019
• Date of Nomination — January 9th, 2021
• Description — A hard-luck kid from Earth joins the Marines and earns a place in the ORIONs.
• Why — While ORION articles aren't unheard of, I've rarely seen one expanded out to this degree with this much media in it, including images, CSV report, and fully-expanded Personality/Skills sections. It's refreshing to see one as a writer's focus.
• Status — GA status granted.

Voting

1. Support — This page has been on the periphery of my awareness for at least a year now, and it kills me this hasn't gotten more attention. Length and image requirements are met, and the formatting's top-notch. On top of some thorough recounting of ORION's exploits, Delta Pistol's done well with expanding not just Daniel's early life, but early service with the Marines pre-ORION. I can't tell you how often I've been tempted to skip through early sections to get to the parts of a character where a Spartan wears armor or an ODST does jumps. Good on him for that section especially, and I hope the article gets more expansion in the future. That Damn Sniper 00:45, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
2. Support — Delta Pistol's participation on the site can often be split between large jumps in activity followed by long periods of hiatus but despite that, his work on Daniel Contreras is one that really works. Winning FOTM a while back and then appearing in two consecutive Annual Awards already alludes to this article's quality. For me, this article already checks off on all the boxes for Good Article. Like Pete, Tim, and LHF as well, Delta puts a significant time into addressing their primary characters in their full significance, addressing underlying family and personal affairs alongside mundane military developments outside the 'let's just punch innies/aliens' retread we know we're all at fault of. There isn't anything really negative to say, there's the occasional spelling mistake but nothing worth pointing out. I just wish there wasn't so much blank space to see the continued adventures for Daniel but that shouldn't detract from the character or Delta's quality. I can only say that this article deserves the GA badge. - Distant Tide: Hunter - Killer
3. Support — I agree with what Sniper and Tide talk about. It meets all the requirements for GA. With the current content, there is a healthy balance of story and action linked together without an overload of either. There can be some maintenance edits made to make the article better in terms of grammar, wordiness and so forth. But it has my support I hope it continues to be expanded upon. ThePeteFiles (talk) 22:11, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
4. Support — A late-coming vote, but in full agreement with the above. Actene: Heaven and Earth

M874 Armored Troop Transport

• Writer — EvenManatee887
• Nominator — EvenManatee887
• Date of Creation — January 9th, 2020
• Date of Nomination — January 16th, 2021
• Description — Uparmored TroopHog derivative made to combat the Insurrection.
• Why — I have worked tirelessly on this article for the last year and it proved itself well during the AAs. Its been a labor of love, hard work and headaches that I think is deserving of GA.
• Status — GA status granted.

Voting

1. Support — Meets length, image, template order, and categorization requirements. There are a couple things to catch with a really fine tooth comb ("make allow" in one spot, for instance), but the overall writing is solid for the development history and usage of the vehicle. Technical specs I can only nod and say, "ah yes, numbers" to for the most part, but a lot of nice thought's been put into the page, like why the armor's ineffectiveness against Covenant weaponry led to its downturn at the time of the games (a handy explanation for why we don't see it around) and exactly what challenges the design would be developed to meet in the first place. That Damn Sniper 01:45, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
2. Support — Won in the 2020 AAs, and meets all the requirements for GA nomination. The article covers a variety of details and explains them easily without using too much technobabble. It's a very in-depth article which goes over the rise and fall of the vehicle while incorporating tidbits of lore throughout. I think this article provides a good template for individuals who wish to write a page about a vehicle. Has my vote. ThePeteFiles (talk) 23:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
3. Support — In full agreement with the above. Actene: Heaven and Earth

KSM1 Jabber

• Writer — Timothy Emeigh
• Nominator — Ahalosniper
• Date of Creation — January 14th, 2020
• Date of Nomination — May 27th, 2021
• Description — A colonially-produced tank which serves as the primary tank of it's home colony's defense force and stands to see wider use by the UNSC and rebel factions in the post-war era.
• Why — This is one of the few tech articles out there to totally grab me with a well-expanded development and service history story, and it ties into both the author's well-expanded colony article and makes references to other users' works on the site. Well-written, well-connected, high quality.
• Status — Nomination pending.

Voting

1. Support — Meets length, image, and formatting requirements. One redlink to take care of in the infobox, but that can easily be dealt with. That Damn Sniper 22:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Far Harvest Legion

• Writer — Distant Tide
• Nominator — Ahalosniper
• Date of Creation — August 14th, 2020
• Date of Nomination — May 27th, 2021
• Description — A human faction which breaks away from the UNSC during the Created conflict and forms its own government for the post-Created galaxy.
• Why — Where the Covenant's arrival forced humanity to band together under the UNSC's banner, the Created having origins as mostly UNSC products will lead to renewed distrust after (assuming they go away) their demise. Former Insurrectionists might found new states independent of Earth and could usher in an era where Halo looks more like Battletech with multiple human factions than something like Ender's Game with a sole human-governed power.
• Status — Nomination pending.

Voting

1. Support — Meets length, image, and formatting requirements. There's hefty expansion of multiple facets of how a splinter faction like this would come to exist and how it would run itself as a government. Let the human v. human power conflicts begin. That Damn Sniper 04:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Ballista Programme

• Writer — EvenManatee887
• Nominator — Ahalosniper
• Date of Creation — May 5th, 2019
• Date of Nomination — June 3rd, 2021
• Description — A UNSC Army initiative to compete with the effectiveness of Spartan supersoldiers and minimize loss of life through use of robotic drones.
• Why — While not a commonly explored concept in Halo canon or fanon, the modern use of drones in warfare and increasing appearances in Halo of combat walkers (from Halo 5 to Halo Wars 2) leaves the possibility for the UNSC to use robots wide open, and Even's put down a thorough amount of polished content without it even being close to done.
• Status — Nomination pending.

Voting

1. Support — Meets length, image, and formatting requirements. There's a conspicuous absence of Halopedia or other links in the article, but no one said anything about them being required. The page reminded me of an RP I ran way back when that had mechanized MJOLNIR suits as an obstacle. Robots aren't very widely explored in Halo, and this page includes UNSC officers' reasoning for why such a program might be valuable enough to greenlight.